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		<title>By: Joanne Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad that I came upon your site--it is very informative and after reading this post, I came across an article in the Winter 2011 issue (v.10 n.1) of &quot;Shakespeare Matters&quot; written by Ted Story (p.1) titled, &quot;Ben Jonson Made Me Laugh&quot;. I recommend it to everyone who knows about Mr. Jonson&#039;s &quot;Every Man Out Of His Humour&quot; and the character of Sogliardo/William Shakspere as well as the controversy surrounding the Droeshout engraving of Shake-speare that appears in the 1623 First Folio  (and Ben Jonson&#039;s hand in it&#039;s publication). 

Mr. Story writes that Ben Jonson&#039;s Sogliardo, with his unique purchased crest featuring the rampant, headless boar, turns out to be the set-up to a joke that Jonson uses 24 years later to deliver a bigger punch-line with his stage crafting of the Droeshout First Folio engraving. 

I already knew a great deal about all the strange features of the engraving before reading Mr. Story&#039;s revelation. I didn&#039;t think that any of the explanations:  That the head was too large for the body, that the too-dark line around the face making it appear like he&#039;s wearing a mask and that the too-small body having two opposite sides (a front and a back) sewn together were enough to prove that Jonson knew the truth about the two men sharing a name but only one was the true author. But what Mr. Story said next was enough for me to suddenly admit--by George, I think he&#039;s got it! 

It turns out that the punch-line is the shape of the collar. The too large head  is actually resting upon a collar that looks very much like a crest/shield and it does indeed look like Mr. Jonson is saying, &quot;Here at last is the head--from that missing purchased crest.&quot; Here is the thinking, real mind behind these immortal works (not the straw man whose name adorns them).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad that I came upon your site&#8211;it is very informative and after reading this post, I came across an article in the Winter 2011 issue (v.10 n.1) of &#8220;Shakespeare Matters&#8221; written by Ted Story (p.1) titled, &#8220;Ben Jonson Made Me Laugh&#8221;. I recommend it to everyone who knows about Mr. Jonson&#8217;s &#8220;Every Man Out Of His Humour&#8221; and the character of Sogliardo/William Shakspere as well as the controversy surrounding the Droeshout engraving of Shake-speare that appears in the 1623 First Folio  (and Ben Jonson&#8217;s hand in it&#8217;s publication). </p>
<p>Mr. Story writes that Ben Jonson&#8217;s Sogliardo, with his unique purchased crest featuring the rampant, headless boar, turns out to be the set-up to a joke that Jonson uses 24 years later to deliver a bigger punch-line with his stage crafting of the Droeshout First Folio engraving. </p>
<p>I already knew a great deal about all the strange features of the engraving before reading Mr. Story&#8217;s revelation. I didn&#8217;t think that any of the explanations:  That the head was too large for the body, that the too-dark line around the face making it appear like he&#8217;s wearing a mask and that the too-small body having two opposite sides (a front and a back) sewn together were enough to prove that Jonson knew the truth about the two men sharing a name but only one was the true author. But what Mr. Story said next was enough for me to suddenly admit&#8211;by George, I think he&#8217;s got it! </p>
<p>It turns out that the punch-line is the shape of the collar. The too large head  is actually resting upon a collar that looks very much like a crest/shield and it does indeed look like Mr. Jonson is saying, &#8220;Here at last is the head&#8211;from that missing purchased crest.&#8221; Here is the thinking, real mind behind these immortal works (not the straw man whose name adorns them).</p>
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		<title>By: Jutta Wende</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jutta Wende]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Perhaps it&#039;s not superfluous to mention the first name, that Jonson gave his &quot;Sogliardo&quot;: &quot;Insulso&quot; (meaning dull, silly, foolish or insipid).

2. The boar was not really Oxford&#039;s heraldic symbol. The figure in his coat of arms was the silver star. But the figure in the crest was the blue boar. And that&#039;s exactly what Sogliardo was talking about, when he asked Puntarvolo, whether he likes his crest (with that boar without head). 
I&#039;m sure, that everybody knew about Oxford&#039;s boar, and so the joke was clearly understood. There were definitely not two or more poets, who were noblemen, lived near London (but not in the city) and had a boar in their crest.

3. Carlo translates the meaning of &quot;without head&quot;: it means &quot;without brain&quot;.
One could add, that Sogliardo does it quite obviously and shamelessly.

4. The name &quot;Puntarvolo&quot; is as interesting as &quot;Sogliardo&quot;. It means: I will point.
Point with what? 
It&#039;s very easy to add: (I) shake (the) spear - I will point (with the spear).

4. I several times read that the Name &quot;shake-speare&quot; was an allusion to the spearshaking goddess Pallas Athene. 
:-&#124;
Jonson seemed to think of another kind of &quot;spear-shaker&quot;, i.e. of Saint George, the patron of the knights (and of the Order of the Garter), when he let clown Carlo say that Puntarvolo, when he is mounted (on the horse) looks like the sign of the George.
Of course everybody at one thought of all the pictures of Saint Georg that he knew, and added: Saint George, spearing the dragon.

No, not the dragon, adds Carlo, but in his case he brandishes his sword just at tree ( save, that instead of a dragon, he will brandish against a tree, and break his sword as confidently upon the knotty bark, as the other did upon the scales of the beast).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Perhaps it&#8217;s not superfluous to mention the first name, that Jonson gave his &#8220;Sogliardo&#8221;: &#8220;Insulso&#8221; (meaning dull, silly, foolish or insipid).</p>
<p>2. The boar was not really Oxford&#8217;s heraldic symbol. The figure in his coat of arms was the silver star. But the figure in the crest was the blue boar. And that&#8217;s exactly what Sogliardo was talking about, when he asked Puntarvolo, whether he likes his crest (with that boar without head).<br />
I&#8217;m sure, that everybody knew about Oxford&#8217;s boar, and so the joke was clearly understood. There were definitely not two or more poets, who were noblemen, lived near London (but not in the city) and had a boar in their crest.</p>
<p>3. Carlo translates the meaning of &#8220;without head&#8221;: it means &#8220;without brain&#8221;.<br />
One could add, that Sogliardo does it quite obviously and shamelessly.</p>
<p>4. The name &#8220;Puntarvolo&#8221; is as interesting as &#8220;Sogliardo&#8221;. It means: I will point.<br />
Point with what?<br />
It&#8217;s very easy to add: (I) shake (the) spear &#8211; I will point (with the spear).</p>
<p>4. I several times read that the Name &#8220;shake-speare&#8221; was an allusion to the spearshaking goddess Pallas Athene.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':-|' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Jonson seemed to think of another kind of &#8220;spear-shaker&#8221;, i.e. of Saint George, the patron of the knights (and of the Order of the Garter), when he let clown Carlo say that Puntarvolo, when he is mounted (on the horse) looks like the sign of the George.<br />
Of course everybody at one thought of all the pictures of Saint Georg that he knew, and added: Saint George, spearing the dragon.</p>
<p>No, not the dragon, adds Carlo, but in his case he brandishes his sword just at tree ( save, that instead of a dragon, he will brandish against a tree, and break his sword as confidently upon the knotty bark, as the other did upon the scales of the beast).</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynda Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 01:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephanie... Thank you for posting such intriguing info.
I wondered if you had read the pamphlet credited to Pierce Penniless aka Thomas Nashe &quot;Supplication to the Devil&quot; published in 1592?
p.10... story of a young cockney &quot;who played the waste-good at the Inns of Court&quot;... (poor John) being in danger of a shipwreck prayed for deliverance but when the crisis was over stepped onto land crying, &quot;Not without mustard good lord, not without mustard as though it had been the greatest torment in the world to have eaten Haberdine without mustard.&quot;
I&#039;m curious about your take the piece ...wondering if Jonson was referencing this since I know he and Nashe worked together on Isle of Dogs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie&#8230; Thank you for posting such intriguing info.<br />
I wondered if you had read the pamphlet credited to Pierce Penniless aka Thomas Nashe &#8220;Supplication to the Devil&#8221; published in 1592?<br />
p.10&#8230; story of a young cockney &#8220;who played the waste-good at the Inns of Court&#8221;&#8230; (poor John) being in danger of a shipwreck prayed for deliverance but when the crisis was over stepped onto land crying, &#8220;Not without mustard good lord, not without mustard as though it had been the greatest torment in the world to have eaten Haberdine without mustard.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m curious about your take the piece &#8230;wondering if Jonson was referencing this since I know he and Nashe worked together on Isle of Dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: hopkinshughes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hopkinshughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent information!  Many thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information!  Many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilhelm Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilhelm Fink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The name Sogliardo has a special, meaning, we have to look in Florio&#039;s ital-engl Dictionaries. 
Sogliarda, a slut, a driggle-draggle, a pis-kitching, a flurtin drudge.
Sogliardo, a mocker, a scoffer, a quipper, a floter, a strumper, a jester. Also a stouenly, sluttisdh, or hoggish. Also a lubbard, a loggerhead, a gull, a foole, a flatterer, a cogger.
1611= Solgliardo, a slovenlie, filthy, foule, sluttish or hoggish fellow. Also a mocker, a flouter, a scoffer, a frumper.
Sogliare, to sullie, to defile, to pollute, to foule. Also to mocke, to flout, to scoffe, to quip, to frumpe. Also to flatter or cog with.  
What a mess for the Stratfordian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Sogliardo has a special, meaning, we have to look in Florio&#8217;s ital-engl Dictionaries.<br />
Sogliarda, a slut, a driggle-draggle, a pis-kitching, a flurtin drudge.<br />
Sogliardo, a mocker, a scoffer, a quipper, a floter, a strumper, a jester. Also a stouenly, sluttisdh, or hoggish. Also a lubbard, a loggerhead, a gull, a foole, a flatterer, a cogger.<br />
1611= Solgliardo, a slovenlie, filthy, foule, sluttish or hoggish fellow. Also a mocker, a flouter, a scoffer, a frumper.<br />
Sogliare, to sullie, to defile, to pollute, to foule. Also to mocke, to flout, to scoffe, to quip, to frumpe. Also to flatter or cog with.<br />
What a mess for the Stratfordian!</p>
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		<title>By: LORETTA SHARPE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LORETTA SHARPE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It all reminds me of Woody Allen&#039;s  The Front.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all reminds me of Woody Allen&#8217;s  The Front.</p>
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