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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by hopkinshughes</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.  Comments like this makes it rewarding to continue.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by hopkinshughes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you mean did writers sometimes take advantage of dead writers to use their names on published works?  I think this is how Oxford published Ovid&#039;s Ars Amatoria and Hero and Leander.  Because they were too sexy to blame on someone living, and Marlowe already had a reputation as a sexual deviate, he used his name to get them published.  I can&#039;t think of any other examples offhand, but it wouldn&#039;t surprise me.

Murders were all too easily accomplished, and on all social levels, but the more important a person, the more likely they were to attract envy, hatred, or any one of a number of reasons for getting rid of them, either by outsiders or by members of their own family. People travelled in groups when moving beyond their own safe neighborhoods, with everyone carrying with some kind of weapon.  Peers used &quot;tasters&quot; to make sure they weren&#039;t being poisoned, or at least fed tidbits to dogs before eating.  With no real police yet, and no forensics, the only recourse was protection, revenge, or doing unto others before they could do unto you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean did writers sometimes take advantage of dead writers to use their names on published works?  I think this is how Oxford published Ovid&#8217;s Ars Amatoria and Hero and Leander.  Because they were too sexy to blame on someone living, and Marlowe already had a reputation as a sexual deviate, he used his name to get them published.  I can&#8217;t think of any other examples offhand, but it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>Murders were all too easily accomplished, and on all social levels, but the more important a person, the more likely they were to attract envy, hatred, or any one of a number of reasons for getting rid of them, either by outsiders or by members of their own family. People travelled in groups when moving beyond their own safe neighborhoods, with everyone carrying with some kind of weapon.  Peers used &#8220;tasters&#8221; to make sure they weren&#8217;t being poisoned, or at least fed tidbits to dogs before eating.  With no real police yet, and no forensics, the only recourse was protection, revenge, or doing unto others before they could do unto you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by hopkinshughes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 15:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fun to think about who would play Oxford.  I had the good fortune to see Ford&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Tis Pity She&#039;s a Whore&lt;/em&gt; at the New Vic in 1999 with Jude Law as the lead, a hugely talented actor who&#039;s sadly been wasted in most of his movie roles.  As he gets older he&#039;d be good for Oxford in the Shakespeare period, with Daniel Radcliffe as Bacon, Hugh Dancy as Raleigh, Rafe Fiennes as Henry Howard, Anthony Hopkins as Lord Hunsdon, and and and . . .   Maybe it&#039;s better to think in terms of the stage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fun to think about who would play Oxford.  I had the good fortune to see Ford&#8217;s <em>Tis Pity She&#8217;s a Whore</em> at the New Vic in 1999 with Jude Law as the lead, a hugely talented actor who&#8217;s sadly been wasted in most of his movie roles.  As he gets older he&#8217;d be good for Oxford in the Shakespeare period, with Daniel Radcliffe as Bacon, Hugh Dancy as Raleigh, Rafe Fiennes as Henry Howard, Anthony Hopkins as Lord Hunsdon, and and and . . .   Maybe it&#8217;s better to think in terms of the stage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by Joanne Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 00:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A completely spell-binding account of this period of history. You are so right that history and literature should be taught together so that the pieces of the living puzzle can be understood and seen in its interconnecting complexity. This story that you are unfolding also should have been the story told in the movie theaters to introduce Edward de Vere to the world. I very much hope that either you--or someone equally talented, will write the book that you have begun to lay out with this first act. I look forward to reading the next two acts of your fascinating and believable retelling of these fascinating people and times. To me it&#039;s as if their fates are still playing out in the present world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A completely spell-binding account of this period of history. You are so right that history and literature should be taught together so that the pieces of the living puzzle can be understood and seen in its interconnecting complexity. This story that you are unfolding also should have been the story told in the movie theaters to introduce Edward de Vere to the world. I very much hope that either you&#8211;or someone equally talented, will write the book that you have begun to lay out with this first act. I look forward to reading the next two acts of your fascinating and believable retelling of these fascinating people and times. To me it&#8217;s as if their fates are still playing out in the present world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by Liz Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it not also interesting that the very (dead) writers of any of the plays are suspected or touted as being the writers of Shakespeare&#039;s plays or he theirs?

Also, was murder of the peerage common -- as opposed to &#039;legal&#039; beheadings, religious burnings,or deaths in wars/ plagues/ tournaments? 
(War of the Roses notwithstanding)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it not also interesting that the very (dead) writers of any of the plays are suspected or touted as being the writers of Shakespeare&#8217;s plays or he theirs?</p>
<p>Also, was murder of the peerage common &#8212; as opposed to &#8216;legal&#8217; beheadings, religious burnings,or deaths in wars/ plagues/ tournaments?<br />
(War of the Roses notwithstanding)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Murder of Shakespeare&#8217;s Identity: Act IV by steve steinburg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And when the truth is known (or let us say, understood) it will take ten full-length movies to tell the tale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when the truth is known (or let us say, understood) it will take ten full-length movies to tell the tale.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Not without mustard by Joanne Gray</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad that I came upon your site--it is very informative and after reading this post, I came across an article in the Winter 2011 issue (v.10 n.1) of &quot;Shakespeare Matters&quot; written by Ted Story (p.1) titled, &quot;Ben Jonson Made Me Laugh&quot;. I recommend it to everyone who knows about Mr. Jonson&#039;s &quot;Every Man Out Of His Humour&quot; and the character of Sogliardo/William Shakspere as well as the controversy surrounding the Droeshout engraving of Shake-speare that appears in the 1623 First Folio  (and Ben Jonson&#039;s hand in it&#039;s publication). 

Mr. Story writes that Ben Jonson&#039;s Sogliardo, with his unique purchased crest featuring the rampant, headless boar, turns out to be the set-up to a joke that Jonson uses 24 years later to deliver a bigger punch-line with his stage crafting of the Droeshout First Folio engraving. 

I already knew a great deal about all the strange features of the engraving before reading Mr. Story&#039;s revelation. I didn&#039;t think that any of the explanations:  That the head was too large for the body, that the too-dark line around the face making it appear like he&#039;s wearing a mask and that the too-small body having two opposite sides (a front and a back) sewn together were enough to prove that Jonson knew the truth about the two men sharing a name but only one was the true author. But what Mr. Story said next was enough for me to suddenly admit--by George, I think he&#039;s got it! 

It turns out that the punch-line is the shape of the collar. The too large head  is actually resting upon a collar that looks very much like a crest/shield and it does indeed look like Mr. Jonson is saying, &quot;Here at last is the head--from that missing purchased crest.&quot; Here is the thinking, real mind behind these immortal works (not the straw man whose name adorns them).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad that I came upon your site&#8211;it is very informative and after reading this post, I came across an article in the Winter 2011 issue (v.10 n.1) of &#8220;Shakespeare Matters&#8221; written by Ted Story (p.1) titled, &#8220;Ben Jonson Made Me Laugh&#8221;. I recommend it to everyone who knows about Mr. Jonson&#8217;s &#8220;Every Man Out Of His Humour&#8221; and the character of Sogliardo/William Shakspere as well as the controversy surrounding the Droeshout engraving of Shake-speare that appears in the 1623 First Folio  (and Ben Jonson&#8217;s hand in it&#8217;s publication). </p>
<p>Mr. Story writes that Ben Jonson&#8217;s Sogliardo, with his unique purchased crest featuring the rampant, headless boar, turns out to be the set-up to a joke that Jonson uses 24 years later to deliver a bigger punch-line with his stage crafting of the Droeshout First Folio engraving. </p>
<p>I already knew a great deal about all the strange features of the engraving before reading Mr. Story&#8217;s revelation. I didn&#8217;t think that any of the explanations:  That the head was too large for the body, that the too-dark line around the face making it appear like he&#8217;s wearing a mask and that the too-small body having two opposite sides (a front and a back) sewn together were enough to prove that Jonson knew the truth about the two men sharing a name but only one was the true author. But what Mr. Story said next was enough for me to suddenly admit&#8211;by George, I think he&#8217;s got it! </p>
<p>It turns out that the punch-line is the shape of the collar. The too large head  is actually resting upon a collar that looks very much like a crest/shield and it does indeed look like Mr. Jonson is saying, &#8220;Here at last is the head&#8211;from that missing purchased crest.&#8221; Here is the thinking, real mind behind these immortal works (not the straw man whose name adorns them).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shakespeare and Medicine by The Medical Mind and Knowledge of &#8220;Shakespeare&#8221; &#8212; Part Two of Reason 38 Why the Real Author was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford &#171; Hank Whittemore&#8217;s Shakespeare Blog</title>
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		<title>Comment on Theatrical birth pangs: 1776 to 1584 by hopkinshughes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems Anne brought the rumor on herself by showing concern when she realized that she was pregnant that her husband would deny that it was his.  This was later explained by means of the &quot;bed trick&quot; in &lt;em&gt;All&#039;s Well&lt;/em&gt;, something that someone in later years attributed to Oxford (I don&#039;t recall exactly who).  It seems that it was common knowledge that, for whatever reason, Oxford spent very little time with his wife during the early years of their marriage.  In order to have sex with her husband, it may be true that Anne resorted to the same ruse that Helene uses in &lt;em&gt;All&#039;s Well&lt;/em&gt; to sleep with Bertram, and then when she found she was pregnant, was afraid that he might have forgotten, or never knew about it, having been drunk at the time, and so would deny the child&#039;s paternity.  This seems unlikely, since, in a letter from Europe, he responded with obvious pleasure to the news that she was pregnant, something he would not have done had he no memory of their night together.  The baby was definitely born in July, not, as some have claimed, in September.  

It seems obvious that Oxford&#039;s anger was not so much from any suspicion that the child wasn&#039;t his as it was at Burghley for having made the issue, as he called it, &quot;the fable of the world.&quot;  If he was angry at Anne, it was probably for having allowed her anxieties to set her up, and him as well, for the rumor that inevitably followed.  As for the idea that the child was Burghley&#039;s, that was surely the work of Henry Howard, whose pattern it was with many besides Oxford, to involve them in one of his Byzantine plots, then destroy them with rumors and accusations. Howard was a nasty piece of work.   

As for the six plays, the first was &lt;em&gt;Pericles&lt;/em&gt;, in which it seems he still struggled with the vision of Anne and Burghley as the wicked correspondents of Howard&#039;s rumor.  Considering how Elizabeth Vere and her sisters must have felt about this play, it&#039;s no surprise that it was left out of the First Folio.  

The next was probably &lt;em&gt;The Winter&#039;s Tale&lt;/em&gt;, in which he takes the blame on himself for allowing his all too easily aroused jealousy to get the better of him.   

In the third version, &lt;em&gt;Much Ado&lt;/em&gt;, Anne&#039;s sorry tale has been reduced to the sub-plot.  Here the villainy has been foisted off onto a cartoon version of Don John of Austria, while the miraculous resurrection of Hermione in WT has become Hero&#039;s trick resurrection.  Significantly, while Anne&#039;s story was relegated to sub-plot in &lt;em&gt;Much Ado&lt;/em&gt;, the main plot reflects the relationship between Oxford and the first real love of his life, Ann Vavasor, suggesting that the first version of this play was written in 1579 or 1580, before the discovery of their relationship and consequent banishment. 

The fourth version was probably &lt;em&gt;Cymbeline&lt;/em&gt;, in which he shifts the blame onto Henry Howard, naming him Iachimo, another name for Jacob, the wily deceiver of the Biblical story who cheated his honest brother out of his patrimony.  The addition of Howard as villain puts the date after 1581, when he and his cousin had their massive falling out. 

The fifth, &lt;em&gt;All&#039;s Well&lt;/em&gt;, may have come before &lt;em&gt;Cymbeline&lt;/em&gt; or after it, but either way it must have been written about the time he was anxious to get back to Court.  In both of these he fantasizes Anne as an intrepid girl who dresses as a youth in order to track down her true love, rather the opposite of the part she actually played.  

The sixth, of course, is &lt;em&gt;Othello&lt;/em&gt;, in which the story is finally told as an out-and-out tragedy. Named Iago, another version of Jacob, this portrays Howard as the sick creep that he actually was.  Of the six, this is the only genuine masterpiece, and as such it was probably one of those he polished in his final phase.  With memories of his wife&#039;s death to haunt him, the death of Desdemona is far from the hocus pocus of Hermione&#039;s resurrection or the trick that resurrects Hero&#039;s reputation. Written with a heart torn with remorse, it is operatic in the grandeur of its language.  &quot;Yet the pity of it, Iago, O Iago, the pity of it!&quot;

The story is touched on in at least two other plays, in Hamlet&#039;s otherwise inexplicable attitude towards Ophelia, and in the cruel treatment of Mariana by Claudio in &lt;em&gt;Measure for Measure&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems Anne brought the rumor on herself by showing concern when she realized that she was pregnant that her husband would deny that it was his.  This was later explained by means of the &#8220;bed trick&#8221; in <em>All&#8217;s Well</em>, something that someone in later years attributed to Oxford (I don&#8217;t recall exactly who).  It seems that it was common knowledge that, for whatever reason, Oxford spent very little time with his wife during the early years of their marriage.  In order to have sex with her husband, it may be true that Anne resorted to the same ruse that Helene uses in <em>All&#8217;s Well</em> to sleep with Bertram, and then when she found she was pregnant, was afraid that he might have forgotten, or never knew about it, having been drunk at the time, and so would deny the child&#8217;s paternity.  This seems unlikely, since, in a letter from Europe, he responded with obvious pleasure to the news that she was pregnant, something he would not have done had he no memory of their night together.  The baby was definitely born in July, not, as some have claimed, in September.  </p>
<p>It seems obvious that Oxford&#8217;s anger was not so much from any suspicion that the child wasn&#8217;t his as it was at Burghley for having made the issue, as he called it, &#8220;the fable of the world.&#8221;  If he was angry at Anne, it was probably for having allowed her anxieties to set her up, and him as well, for the rumor that inevitably followed.  As for the idea that the child was Burghley&#8217;s, that was surely the work of Henry Howard, whose pattern it was with many besides Oxford, to involve them in one of his Byzantine plots, then destroy them with rumors and accusations. Howard was a nasty piece of work.   </p>
<p>As for the six plays, the first was <em>Pericles</em>, in which it seems he still struggled with the vision of Anne and Burghley as the wicked correspondents of Howard&#8217;s rumor.  Considering how Elizabeth Vere and her sisters must have felt about this play, it&#8217;s no surprise that it was left out of the First Folio.  </p>
<p>The next was probably <em>The Winter&#8217;s Tale</em>, in which he takes the blame on himself for allowing his all too easily aroused jealousy to get the better of him.   </p>
<p>In the third version, <em>Much Ado</em>, Anne&#8217;s sorry tale has been reduced to the sub-plot.  Here the villainy has been foisted off onto a cartoon version of Don John of Austria, while the miraculous resurrection of Hermione in WT has become Hero&#8217;s trick resurrection.  Significantly, while Anne&#8217;s story was relegated to sub-plot in <em>Much Ado</em>, the main plot reflects the relationship between Oxford and the first real love of his life, Ann Vavasor, suggesting that the first version of this play was written in 1579 or 1580, before the discovery of their relationship and consequent banishment. </p>
<p>The fourth version was probably <em>Cymbeline</em>, in which he shifts the blame onto Henry Howard, naming him Iachimo, another name for Jacob, the wily deceiver of the Biblical story who cheated his honest brother out of his patrimony.  The addition of Howard as villain puts the date after 1581, when he and his cousin had their massive falling out. </p>
<p>The fifth, <em>All&#8217;s Well</em>, may have come before <em>Cymbeline</em> or after it, but either way it must have been written about the time he was anxious to get back to Court.  In both of these he fantasizes Anne as an intrepid girl who dresses as a youth in order to track down her true love, rather the opposite of the part she actually played.  </p>
<p>The sixth, of course, is <em>Othello</em>, in which the story is finally told as an out-and-out tragedy. Named Iago, another version of Jacob, this portrays Howard as the sick creep that he actually was.  Of the six, this is the only genuine masterpiece, and as such it was probably one of those he polished in his final phase.  With memories of his wife&#8217;s death to haunt him, the death of Desdemona is far from the hocus pocus of Hermione&#8217;s resurrection or the trick that resurrects Hero&#8217;s reputation. Written with a heart torn with remorse, it is operatic in the grandeur of its language.  &#8220;Yet the pity of it, Iago, O Iago, the pity of it!&#8221;</p>
<p>The story is touched on in at least two other plays, in Hamlet&#8217;s otherwise inexplicable attitude towards Ophelia, and in the cruel treatment of Mariana by Claudio in <em>Measure for Measure</em>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Theatrical birth pangs: 1776 to 1584 by Marilyn Jones-Wilson</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Once Oxford calmed down, the truth about his daughter must have been obvious&quot; - what was the truth about his daughter&#039;s birth?  And what were the six plays that address the question?  Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Once Oxford calmed down, the truth about his daughter must have been obvious&#8221; &#8211; what was the truth about his daughter&#8217;s birth?  And what were the six plays that address the question?  Thank you.</p>
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